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Quote from: Ian Hammond on September 26, 2022, 02:46:39 pm

What about the aussie system ? that worked, they were vilified in the press etc but it did work !

One huge thing we should do is to remove all the benefits they get as soon as they enter the country, Its total madness !

Bring back workhouses? Have them under armed guard, doing 6 hour shifts on some basic labour for their room, bed, 3 meals a day and clothes and a small card for additional purchased from a tuck shop style thing run by locals from the area the house is in providing some local employment too

Why not? We have working prisons. My local prison has a very good market garden stall (It's called "Doing Thyme") and as the rest of us have to work, why not them.

I should add that I emigrated legally to Australia in 1975 and I got nothing in terms of housing, benefits or any assistance at all. I had to find myself work and somewhere to live and I did it. Had there been a scheme like this, with basic accommodation and a way to make some money between job interviews i would have grabbed it with both hands.

Personally, I hate context crimes, whether it be crimes against public sector workers like manslaughter being changed to murder charges in terms of punishment the same for hate crimes.

Manslaughter is manslaughter, murder is Murder, theft is theft, pedophilia is pedophilia, rapists are rapists. Now motivations for it should be considered in sentencing with racially motivated or group hate related motivations (like with the grooming gangs) should be charged more maybe removing the chance for parole.

Now I would say for murderers without remorse and rapists and groomers and other similar heinous crimes, we should bring back hanging till dead, I would even be for broadcasting these happenings live on the BBC, with the crime commited under.

I would also give a secondary option for criminals with the ability to claim another nationality or dual national to be deported instead of those penalties, I would also remove the right to relinquish citizenship for criminals and those under investigation, even if it does exacerbate family breakup, a rapist or **** with kids who would be deported shouldn't be around kids, and if the family want to follow them to wherever they are being deported to we should facilitate this on the conditions if possible they relinquish citizenship or residency of the United kingdom.

I understand contraversial opinions and policy points, but they are needed to protect the great British public, the public's care workers, the public servants, vulnerable people as well as children and young adults.

I would also recommend we use old Napoleonic era forts be recommissioned into new offshore prisons for criminals who are not British citizens or who are repeat offenders. We could also use these facilities for asylum seekers/economic illegal migrants.

No one who breaks British laws should be given any wriggle room, the law needs reform, the law needs simplifying, the law needs to be blind, not heartless but blind, and for heinous crimes there should be no parole for them, there should be no chance of release within the United kingdom.

Absolutely agree. We have been unlucky in recent years with highly qualified jurists not doing that as Secretaries of State for Justice. Overhaul is required urgently.

Thanks Ian